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Table of Contents
                            Introductory notes
Ulster Kidds - Introduction
How it all began
The First Wild Goose
From Walter of Scotland to Benjamin of Millmount Keady Armagh - The Massacre
Some geography
Benjamin Kidd of town and land of Rathmore
The Defence of Londonderry
The Old Tassagh Stone. Can we believe it?
The Story of the Kidd Arms and Crest
The Scottish Archers
Angus, Dundee and the linen trade
Summary and conclusions from the Story of the Arms
Another look at the Hearth Roll Kids of Antrim 1663-69
The first southward spread of the northern Kidds
Other Kidds recorded about 1740
The Londonderry family
The Alexander Hunt
The Alexander trail continued
Figure 2
Figure 3
Figure 4
                        
Document Text Contents
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THE KIDDS OF IRELAND

Part I - The Ulster Kidds

by Franklin Kidd (1890-1974)

Unpublished manuscript typescript in Franklin Kidd's archive;
We thank and acknowledge the cheerful cooperation of Mrs Wendy Kidd in making this document
available.
This version dates from after January 1970, based on a statement made in it on page 3

Conversion of the text
this searchable text version made using Omnipage ocr from scanned images obtained by William S F Kidd 7/2012
(pdf file of the scanned typescript pages is also posted on this website http://www.kiddgenealogy.net/)
with subsequent visual editing to remove typographical recognition errors;
the pagination of the original typescript is retained in this conversion, in order to facilitate comparison with the
original.
Most of the underlined text in the original has not been marked in this version. Headings have instead been
distinguished by using contrasting font styles. Text indentations similarly have not been retained. If you miss them, or
the underlined body text, feel free to take a copy and to surrender the time needed to put them in!

Footnotes
I have added labelled footnotes, explicitly marked as added to distinguish them clearly from Franklin Kidd's footnotes,
to the pages where I have made a minor change from the original typescript text.

Place Names
The only placename change made from the typescript is to substitute Slyguff for Slyguft on page 3, for consistency with
Part II.

Family charts
Three family charts of limited scope were included in the typescript by Franklin Kidd; his annotated version of the
much more extensive Keady Kidds chart which he references on page 6 was photographed, and a transcribed version of
this has been added to the site (access through a separate link). If anyone can verify any parts of this large chart, please
get in touch with Ryan Kidd through the email link on this website.

Other illustrations
Maps, a facsimile muster roll, the first Kidd arms illustration, and the photograph of Benjamin Kidd have not yet been
located in Franklin Kidd's archive, and so do not appear with this version of the document.

Dates
A note to USAians: all numerical dates in this document are in D-M-Y format

And one more and important thing to keep in mind about dates – many of the earlier dates he cites, or infers, are
marked as approximate, in this format: 1750c or 1750 c. or 1750 c or 1750c.
These should not be used as exact year dates; commonly they are uncertain by 5 to 10 years, and in some cases more.

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THE KIDDS OF IRELAND

by
Franklin Kidd, C.B.E., D.Sc., F.R.S.

Part I - The Ulster Kidds

My Irish Ancestors? I did not begin to wonder who they were or what they had been like until I was sixty seven,
and retired. I started to sort out and arrange my Father's[1] papers, which had been in store for many years with
the idea of writing a life. Who were his ancestors?

My Grandfather, Benjamin Kidd, Senior, had been a constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary. He was said to
have run away from his home as a boy, to have remembered a large house, and to have had an elder sister,
whom he tried to contact in his later years, but without success. He had been an Episcopalian. These seemed
good enough clues, and I set out on a search, in the course of which I have amassed a great deal of data of some
genealogical interest about the Kidds of Ireland, North and South. But, alas, Grandfather Kidd has escaped
capture from documented evidence. As the "raison d'être" of all that follows, I think you may like to see him.
The photograph# shows him as he used to appear on our doorstep when I was a boy, (plus top hat) heralding as

1. Benjamin Kidd (Dict. Nat. Biography).

#[note added by William Kidd] - this photograph not found with the text

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have been carefully collected and published.[1] The muster rolls of Archers were made annually and at more
frequent intervals. A facsimile sample is reproduced#. Under each Archer's signature (often a scrawl impossible
to spell out), a clerkly hand has written the name as he would spell it in French, e.g., for a 'K' a 'Qu'. Further, as
many names appear in successive rolls one can infer that a variant of qu. was gu., for example Quetre, Guetre,
Guêtre appear in successive rolls. I found a Guilliaume Quid in the muster roll for guard at a Chateau in Milan
1507, and a Jehan Gued (variants Guet, Guête, Gued, Guede) in the 1568-76 rolls. Both these I believe are
clearly Kidds. Their approximate dates of birth would be William born 1485, and John born 1550, and it seems
not unlikely that they came from the same family.

Angus, Dundee and the linen trade

Now these places, Craigie and Woodhill, the seats of Patrick and William of the Arms quoted above, are in
Angus, in which are the towns of Dundee. Arbroath and Forfar on the east coast of Scotland, north of the Firth
of Tay. The town of Perth, ancient capital of Scotland, is just over the border of Angus in the south.

1. "Scots-men-at-Arms and Life Guards in France 1418-1820". Two volumes by W. Forbes Leith, published Edinburgh 1882.

#[note added by William Kidd] - this facsimile not found with the text

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George F. Black's "The Surnames of Scotland" 1946 lists Kid, Kidd, Kyd and Kydd as an old Angus surname in
Dundee and Arbroath and Forfar. Documentation is quoted for many Kidds, variously spelt, in this region from
a Gilchrist Kide 1180-1203 onwards. The family name appears frequently in the Burgh records of Dundee from
1520 up to the present day. Certain entries seem of particular interest in the present connection. "William Kyd
was burgess of Perth 1563 (Methven p.66), and in an inquisition was 'retoured' heir of Robert Kyd, son of
Master James Kyd of Craigie in the lands of the Parish of Alloa". "Robert Kyd was portioner of Nethermains
1571 (Retours, Ayr, 708)".

In another place, Vol. 28 of the Scottish History Society, "The Ancient Capital of Scotland, Perth", by Samuel
Cowen, a Walter Kyd is documented as included in a list of Cautioners, Roll of 1556-1580. A cautioner is a
Scottish legal term for a person who has gone surety for somebody else, a guarantor.

This same Walter Kyd provides a link connecting the Kids of the North of Ireland to a possible origin in Angus.
More important is the linen trade upon which the Kidds of Ireland evidently founded their success.

But how came our Walter Kid, or Kyd, from Angus to Irvine on the east coast in Ayrshire? There is a plausible

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Patrick Kyd of Craigie (Figure 3 of Franklin Kidd)

Argent, a pine tree eradicated proper, with a bugle horne pendant upon one of the branches or,
stringed gules, on a chief azure three martlets of the third. Above the shield one helmet befitting his
degree mantled gules doubled argent. The motto is on an Escroll “QUEM NON TORRET HIEMS”.

Volume 1, folio 173

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William Kyd of Woodhill (Figure 4 of Franklin Kidd)

Argent, a pine tree eradicated proper, with a bugle-horne pendant upon one of the branches or,
stringed gules, on a chief azure three mollets of the third, a crescent for difference. Above the shield
one helmet befitting his degree mantled gules doubled argent. The motto is in one Escroll “DONEE
UMPLEAT ORBEM”.

Volume 1, folio 343

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