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Dialogue with "Hidden Hand", Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider


This self-proclaimed illuminati [def] Insider appeared on the "Above Top Secret" forum
in October 2008, giving away information about the Illuminati Agenda and their goals.
The reason for this, he says, is because time is right for us to know some of what is going
on behind the scenes. And when he explains WHY he needs to reveal it now, it's very
convincing. In this article I will post the dialogue between the "Above Top Secret Forum"
members and "Hidden Hand" in its entirety.

Please take time to read through this whole dialogue (yes, I know it's long, but I think we
all can benefit from it, even if you end up not believing what is said). When you read it,
you need to have an open mind; you can't be stuck in dogma or think you "have it all
figured out" already, because then it doesn't matter what he says, you won't believe it.

Here are some points which makes him very believable; one being that the forum
members he is communicating with make up pages after pages of random questions (as
you can see in this article) and he answers them intelligently and precisely without the
delay it would take for a person presenting a hoax to come up with them. This is also
what the forum members notice. And he is consistent! Many of the questions are very
good, deep, to the point and philosophical, and this guy (or woman, we don't know - this
being claims not to be from this Earth), manages to reply on a very deep level, and his
answers don't contradict each other. In an advanced and intelligent dialogue like this, it's
very unlikely anyone would be able to do that without giving himself away at some point.
You will most certainly notice he/she is sincere.

Ever wondered who is "on top of the Pyramid?" He gives us a clue. The bloodline he
represents is well above the Rothschild's in power and in the hierarchy and is extra-
terrestrial in origin. The 13 bloodlines we have been talking about thus far on this website
and others, with the Rothschild's in a top position together with the Merovingian Nobility,
are quite low rank in the Big Pyramid Structure, and are the ones playing a power game
here on Earth, only aware of parts of the Big Game (a need to know basis). The bloodline
"Hidden Hand" is supposedly belonging to is way more advanced and higher rank.

I really think this being believes in what he is saying, and whether he is deceived himself
to some degree or not, this is most probably what is driving the Illuminati. These are their

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goals! It leaves you with a pretty strange feeling after have read it all, but deep inside it
rings true.

His answers may need to be read more than once to understand the different layers of
what he is telling us. Afterwards, when you start connecting the dots you notice that a lot
of pieces in the big puzzle that previously were missing and left unanswered, suddenly
fit.

If you are visiting the Illuminati News website for the first time, already have a fair
concept of what the Illuminati and the New World Order is about, and you only intend to
read ONE article from my huge database, I would say this one would be the one to read!

It's been hard to perceive what ULTIMATELY drives the Illuminati. Greed? Yes. Power?
Of course. Control? Sure. But you always have this feeling that there is a deeper mystery
behind their "Great Work of the Ages". This may very well be the answer!

When you are done reading this article and feel inspired, please go to the website, Law of
One, and start absorbing the information presented there. It is a huge database on the
same subject, but extensively expanded. Both these article, may if we read them with
understanding plus an open mind and an open heart, show us the real so[u]lution to the
New World Order [def] problem.

Here is the dialogue between the Above Top Secret members [ATS] and "Hidden Hand"
[HH], the self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider (the emphases in bold throughout the article
are mine to separate out certain keys points I want to highlight):

First Session:

HH: I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of
opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make
communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you
would like answered.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer
this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary)
Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.

Rules define life in games.

If you wish to participate, here they are:

1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the
same from you in reciprocation.

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What I want, is that my words become a Catalyst for you. That is what we came
here to do. If my words cause you, even if for just a short time, to stop for a moment, and
evaluate that which you 'think' you already know about the nature of Life, and take for
granted as being true (because "everyone else believes it"), then my time will have been
well spent. My desire is that you become an Authentic Human Being, thinking, and
feeling, and deciding for yourself what "feels" like Truth for you. I wish you well in your
endeavors.

ATS: You can't provide 1 shred of proof that this isn't a hoax even though it would be
incredibly easy to do so, were you who you claim you were.

HH: Won't. Not can't. Big difference.

This is not intended to be an object lesson prophesy fulfillment.

If you think I thought that I would be blindly believed, or even wanted for that to happen,
you are very much mistaken. I would be disappointed if that were to be the case, for you
will have learned nothing from my time here. (Not you personally, I mean 'you' as in
people in general).

My task here, as has been my task incarnating here for thousands of years, is to provide a
Catalyst. To make you think. (Again, not 'you' personally, I mean in general).

If I were to give you the "proof" that you are looking for, if I were to predict things and
tomorrow they all happen before your very eyes, people would likely take everything I've
said here as "gospel". That would be disasterous were that to occur, because you will
have learned nothing for yourselves.

It's not about me. I'm just a messenger. It's all about you (again, generally speaking), and
what you do in relation to the Catalyst. Question what you "think" you know about
reality. Seek the Infinite Creator within you, and ask for It's guidance.

"Ask, and you will receive. Search, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be
opened for you".

ATS: I am a 32nd degree Mason, although if you were really a royal bloodline person you
would know that it means nothing.

HH: If you have Genuinely attained the level of "Sublime Prince of The Royal Secret"
through the Scottish Rite, or that of the "Order of the Knight's Templar" through the York
Rite, and have not been taught of the Truths of Creation, then I would be very interested
indeed to know which area Lodge you attend, as I would very much like to speak with
your current Worshipful Master.

Naturally I completely understand and respect if you do not wish to make such personal
details known publicly though.

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Of course. what you said in another post about there only being three degrees is true, for
those attending the Blue or Craft Lodges, though as you've stated that you are 32nd
degree, I'm presuming you are either Scottish Rite, or the York Rite's equivalent.

I hope to be able to be present personally in the event that you are ever invited to progress
beyond the 33rd Degree. I would like to be the one tasked with introducing you to
Lucifer. I expect you will likely come back and say how there is no further progression
beyond 33rd. Well, if you're lucky, there will be a nice surprise in store for you,
somewhere down the line. I sincerely hope that make it that far.

ATS: That your repeating debunked conspiracy theory shows your just here to hoax.

HH: That word "debunked" always brings me a hearty laugh. Some people seem to think
that throwing the word "debunked" around means that it really has been. The vast
majority of "debunking" has more holes in it that the "conspiracy theories" it's meant to
be silencing. Just enough of a "shell" to help those who really don't want the Truth to be
True, to carry on believing that it's not, so they can replace their heads back into the sand
for a while longer.

Anyway, I must press on with questions from those with open minds, I leave you with my
regards, keep up your good work.

. . .

ATS: Over the course of my life I have occasionally resorted to prayer, some formal &
some not with truly astounding & nearly instant physical results. I've taken these results
to heart as personal evidence that some higher force or forces can respond in a
meaningful manner to at least me & perhaps to anyone; Still, I don't rule out the
possibility of coincidence. From your vantage point, would you please be gracious
enough to shed light on this phenomena

HH: There is no such thing as coincidence. Nothing happens by chance.

Life is in a constant process of communication with us. Only mostly, people are too
busy to notice.

Our Infinite Creator longs to be close to us. In truth, he is closer than most would believe,
they just don't notice him. As they pass him by on the street every day, when he gives
them their change at the shop, when you tuck her into bed and give her a kiss goodnight,
when you squash him as he's running up your bathroom wall toward his web. When
there's no-one else in the room but 'you'.

The main reason people don't have their "prayers" answered, is because they do not really
believe that they will. Don't have "faith" in our Infinite Creator, have Trust in him. The
most Powerful form of "prayer", is Thanksgiving. "For even before you ask, I have

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